25 posts tagged “seaside”

Presenting Seaside at Myspace.com headquarters

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My longtime friend (and fellow Perl book author) Carl Dichter now runs the show at Myspace.com for the infrastructure team (or something like that). He invited me to present Seaside at their regular "programming dojos" where experts are called in to expose the company to bleading-edge technologies for possible assimilation into the already diverse frameworks within Myspace.

I beefed up the "elevator talk" because I knew I'd have about 90 minutes. So this is yet-another version of the "intro to seaside" talk, and the one I'm happiest with so far.

The talk was well received, with many good questions and (once again) a standing-room-only crowd. However, this time, I was also videotaped, and I'm told it will appear on "myspace TV" very soon, and I'll link to that when it goes up. You can all see how bad my typing went on the live demo, and how I couldn't figure out how to get Squeak to resize to the 1024x768 screen very well.

Seaside presentation at BarCampPortland a success!

May 3, 2008
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Seaside Elevator 0.05

I had about 20 people in my room at BarCampPortland, which made it "standing room only" for the last few who showed up. The audience was attentive, and asked good questions. Monty Williams of GemStone was also along, and helped me with a few answers.

I hacked up a new presentation based on the responses here to my previous post, which I've embedded here at the right. You have to click to advance to each new slide.

Amazingly enough, with just 12 slides, and a few short demos, and a few questions, my 45 minutes were up. So that's about the right size for 45 minutes. Finally.

The Elevator Pitch for Seaside

May 3, 2008
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I'm at BarCampPortland this weekend, scheduled to introduce a whole new batch of folks to Seaside this afternoon.

But as we were organizing the "unconference" last night, I found myself having to repeatedly describe Seaside and why I'm so excited about it. This is good practice for me, and I'm happy that I did a bit of that for the interview a few days ago.

But I think I've come up with a good elevator pitch for "why Seaside and not [insert other framework here]", that centers on three key items: abstracted control flows, live debugging, and persistence without ORMs.

Because Seaside has a continuation-based framework, I can write a single method that captures the flow of my application in a natural way: "show page 1", "show page 2 until the data validates", "show page 3". My local variables and state of execution persist transparently between page hits, so I don't have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to leave myself notes for the next hit. This also means I can build a reusable library of control flows ("login page", "validated multipage form", "paging through a dataset", "breadcrumb trail") and save myself development time in the long run. Without continuations, this is a difficult thing to do, and I know, having coded control flows in Perl webapps for many years.

Seaside is Smalltalk, and inherits Smalltalk's live debugging feature. When something breaks, I get a stack backtrace that is live, and I can find the problem, edit the code, and proceed from that point, returning to the same hit done correctly, instead of restarting my testing from scratch. (I hear the folks at GemStone are even persisting failures from test suites overnight: the bug report has a link that takes them right to the precise broken state, and they can fix it and continue the suite from there. Incredible.)

Through GemStone/S, or the open source Magma tools, I can tell Smalltalk to simply "persist these objects", meaning that I don't have to build complicated and computationally expensive strategies to take my naturally-shaped objects and map them through a narrow SQL bottleneck to a database and back again. The objects are shared in their natural shape using Smalltalk-aware strategies.

These are the three key points. If the elevator ride is a long one, I would also include that Seaside is supported by two commercial vendors (Cincom and GemStone) and two open source Smalltalks (Squeak and GNU Smalltalk), providing lots of options for support, scaling, and philosophy of development.

So, I'm going to quickly be writing up some slides that look like these talking points, since I found out I have only 45 minutes for this talk, and my 60-minutes of material won't fit, nor will the audience sit still for a longer talk, I suspect.

Interviewed by Ronaldo M. Ferraz

May 2, 2008
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So, I'm apparently at the point where I'm getting interviewed about my progress with Smalltalk and Seaside. I met Ronaldo M. Ferraz at FISL a few weeks ago, and he asked if he could interview me. He sent me a list of questions by email, which I answered a week later (too busy enjoying Caipirinhas on the beach in Copacabana), and he's posted the result in both Brazilian Portuguese and English. It's a good summary of how the first part of my "year of smalltalk" has gone. Enjoy!

Subverting Perl People into Smalltalk Hackers

Apr 27, 2008
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After FISL, I spent a week in Rio to kick back and visit my friends of the Rio Perl Users Group (commonly known as "Rio.pm"). I offered to give a talk in exchange for hanging out for a meal, and they asked me what I would want to talk about. Of course, I said "Seaside", as in, giving the same talk I gave at FISL.

What I didn't realize is that the talk I offered to give was actually the final talk of a full day of Perl information exchange, so when I looked at the schedule, I saw nine Perl talks, and my Seaside talk! Figuring I was working my way into a slightly hostile situation, I considered changing to a more traditional Perl talk, but as I walked into the room, a few people said "looking forward to seeing your talk on Seaside".

The conference got delayed because of some power outage, so I didn't actually get to start until after I was supposed to have finished. Thus, once again, I had to edit a 90-minute talk into about 35 minutes. (Maybe that's fate with this talk: I'll never ever be able to deliver it in a leisurely pace.)

The reaction was actually quite rewarding. A number of the hardcore Perl hackers asked a lot of questions about Seaside and how it works, and about Smalltalk in general. The interest was high, and the crowd inspired to investigate this further. So, I have managed to walk into the lion's den and deliver the message, and walked out without too many scratches. Yeay.

Smalltalk at FISL: now and forever!

Apr 19, 2008
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I gave my Seaside intro talk earlier today at FISL 9.0 (pictures being uploaded to my flickr account already). The talk was well-attended (about 200 or so in the audience), including some Rails folks. I was surprised though when I asked how many people had coded in Smalltalk before, and got about 25% of the hands raised! Most of them were also web-app programmers.

I had only 35 minutes for my presentation (even shorter than I had planned), so I just barely got to the part where I alter the WACounter class to divide by 0 to show fixing things that break. But the questions were very good, and everyone stayed to the end. Afterward, I continued the discussion with a smaller group for another 20 minutes in the hallway, and have had a half dozen people stop me in the hallways in the following two hours, so the interest is high and the news spreading.

But the biggest news is that based on the preliminary interest in Seaside because of my talk, the FISL conference organizers offered an entire room for next years conference (the full three days with 12 hours per day), as well as four or five main-track hour talks, if I could help organize the subconference details! This is quite a gift, because it will mean that we can expose the 7000 conference attendees to a variety of Smalltalk programs, without paying for rooms or badging or promotion. The conference asked if I could get some corporate sponsors on board, and I immediately fired off email to James at Cincom and Monty at GemStone, and thank goodness they read email on Saturday, because they offered their support quickly. Of course, we have many details to work out, but everyone agrees that we will move forward!

We also have a great opportunity to overlap a bit with the OLPC folks. They also have a room for the entire conference, and I can see some "Squeak on the XO" talks overlapping between the tracks.

So, mark your calendars to be in Porto Alegre Brazil at end of June 2009! We're gonna be smalltalking!

Mentioned Seaside on "The Future And You"

Apr 16, 2008
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I was interviewed by noted futurist Stephen Euin Cobb for his podcast, The Future And You. If you skip ahead to about the fifty-five minute mark, you'll hear me rave about Seaside and describe my recent activities. I also rant about why Muni Wifi will never work, and why a pacemaker shouldn't have an IP address amongst a dozen other topics. Enjoy!

Seaside tutorial at OSCON - accepted!

Apr 1, 2008
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I just got word that my proposal for a 3-hour Seaside tutorial at OSCON has been accepted. Here's what I pitched:

Introduction to Seaside - Powerful web application development in Smalltalk
Description: Introduction to the Smalltalk Seaside web application framework: an open-source (but vendor supported) challenge to the classic web design strategies, using test-driven development, continuations for easy workflow abstraction, and view components for consistency and re-use. Includes introduction to Squeak Smalltalk, but general OO principles won't be covered.
Abstract: Sure, Smalltalk is where we got our modern view of windows and mice and “the desktop” and object-oriented programming and extreme programming two decades ago, but what has Smalltalk done for us lately?
I’ll answer this by showing off the Seaside web application framework. Imagine being able to debug a broken web-hit in the middle of the hit, fixing the code, and continuing before the browser knows that something went wrong. Imagine being able to re-use control flows and web components with the ease of OO programming. Imagine being able to do test-driven development, even for HTML delivery. Imagine taking an application from “three guys in Starbucks on a laptop” to “3000 hits per second on your Amazon EC2 cloud” with no major changes in design. No need to imagine… I’ll demonstrate all this and more.
Smalltalk knowledge is not required: I’ll start with a brief overview of Smalltalk using Squeak, the free implementation that’s even included in the OLPC XO. General knowledge of Object-Oriented Programming basics would be helpful, though.

This will be an expanded version of the talk I'll be presenting at FISL in two weeks, and rehearsed for the Portland Linux and Smalltalk groups already. I'm happy that OSCON accepted the talk... this helps confirm that this is indeed the year of Smalltalk via Seaside.

I'll be co-presenting the talk with fellow Stonehenge trainer, Tom Phoenix. He's busy working on some really cool examples of code to use in a Seaside training course, and has been somewhat active on the Squeak mailing list over the years.

Reviving the IRTC in Smalltalk

Mar 26, 2008
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One of my fond memories of years past was reviewing the frequent submissions to the Internet Ray Tracing Competition (IRTC), being consistently stunned at how Dave Buck's povray could be used to generate some remarkable photorealistic images, even back in the early days when 10 Mhz was a fast machine.

When I interviewed Dave for a recent FLOSS Weekly, I discovered that the IRTC had fallen into limbo, and was saddened by that. But apparently, my wish to have it revive was enough of a nudge for Dave to look in to it, and a few weeks later he announced that the IRTC was going to be revived. Even better, the new website would be written in Seaside, and that I had volunteered to help him with it. (No, he didn't ambush me... we had discussed this in email the previous day.)

Last night, Dave and I started chatting for the first time about the project. I managed to download the latest VisualWorks NC version, and get it up and running, and got connected to Dave's repo. Within 20 minutes of wandering through the code to understand what had been written so far, I found a common Seaside misunderstanding (calling #renderContentOn: a subcomponent rather than #render:), and pointed it out to Dave, so the relationship has already been useful. We also talked about the need for class comments, especially since WAComponent's comment is where I learned about the #render: mistake.

What I find exciting about this is that I have a solid project to get VW experience in, and since we'll be using Glorp, I also get to learn Glorp with a practical project. I believe the code will be dual licensed (both MIT and LGPL), so this will also be a great example for others to use of a reasonably interesting and complex Seaside application.

Thanks to Dave for letting me apprentice with him (including the patience to explain VW to me, one crazy step at a time), and have the opportunity to contribute to a visible project!

The year of Smalltalk

Mar 20, 2008
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Last night, I gave the second presentation of my "Intro to Seaside" talk: this time to the patient people of the "Advanced PLUG" group. I had incorporated comments from the previous presentation by including less information about Smalltalk history, and more live demos to illustrate by doing instead of talking.

However, even after these adjustments, my should-be-50-minutes talk ended up taking almost 90 minutes. The consensus of the group seemed to be that I could eliminate even more of the "intro to Smalltalk" part, and concentrate on the meat of the talk: how Seaside workflow helps me get my webdev done faster, better, and cheaper, by abstracting and reusing in the two directions (web components, and workflow steps). Apparently, the simplicity of the Smalltalk code that I end up demoing is nearly self evident, and what's more important is that I show Seaside working, and my enthusiasm makes up for the lack of technical details. And with my next presentation to be at the largest open source conference in the world (FISL in Brazil in April), that's really what matters.

One of the things I discovered is that I can neither cut-n-paste from Keynote, nor type very fast. So I think the next time I do this talk, I'll pull a "Julia Child" and have "the cake already finished in the oven". I'll start to enter the code, and then switch to one already finished to skip the rest of the boring typing, unless there's a point to it. I have to work out the details of that, but I'm confident that there's some way to do it nicely.

Some of the attendees stayed around afterwards for a bit more detailed feedback, and I appreciated that. During this conversation, I observed and shared that my dozen years of experience as a leading Perl lecturer and writer are proving useful in determining how to present Smalltalk and Squeak and Seaside. My dedication to finding the sweet spot between free/open source and commercial viability has worked well for Perl, and I am sure I can bring that same skill set to the Smalltalk world as well.

If there is any year for Smalltalk to regain a commercial visibility, this will be it. I mean, look at all the things coming together:

the OLPC XO is putting Smalltalk into the hands of thousands of young kids
Cincom and Gemstone are stepping up to support Seaside in a big way
Gemstone is offering the single-instance free commercial license and GLASS quickstart appliance
Squeak's license is finally getting cleaned up
Seaside is reaching a nice level of maturity
Seaside running on GNU Smalltalk for those that want a command-line environment
Croquet is maturing, even being adopted as a commercial "virtual meeting" space
Ruby on Rails has reestablished dynamic languages as useful for the web

Looks like we really have an opportunity here. Carpe Diem!

Presenting Seaside at Myspace.com headquarters

Seaside presentation at BarCampPortland a success!

The Elevator Pitch for Seaside

Interviewed by Ronaldo M. Ferraz

Subverting Perl People into Smalltalk Hackers

Smalltalk at FISL: now and forever!

Mentioned Seaside on "The Future And You"

Seaside tutorial at OSCON - accepted!

Reviving the IRTC in Smalltalk

The year of Smalltalk

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